Sunsetting Incognito   

Quest documentation: wheel and lottery

#25

I can empathize. During the creation of Denali Coin DNA and it’s ensuing offspring DNAI there was a LOT of excitement and the White Paper wasn’t even out yet. It was written but at the same time regulations were changing. It seemed that everyday required an update. That being said, the more things became clear, and MORE transparent, the more the project got attacked. Imagining that this is just a bump in the road for sure as the comparison of reality to ones imagination is an impossible task to live up to.

I hit the sleepy guy on the wheel 20x in a row. Now I can’t even seem to get in to play the Quest game at all. It’s not accessible from inside my mobile wallet. As it’s not a real priority, the link that got me in got lost in the Matrix.

If anyone has a direct link even to just the wheel, I miss that sleepy guy. Wanna throw more QUEST and PRV at him!0)

#26

I think @Northhill makes a very important point. The boys are right, the wheel is deceiving. One deceptive product casts doubt over the whole project. Lootboxes are predatory and the wheel is a lootbox. Not a good look for the project. Not something to gloss over and move on.

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#27

We are still doing this? That message is over a month old.

There are more important things to focus on than the wheel of a fortune game.

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#28

You’re funny. A month later and the issue has not been resolved. Excellent point Jamie.

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#29

This game was so much fun for the people who have been around longer than just a few days. Those who went through the highs and lows with the team during this first year of the project.

It got completely ruined by the scammers and those who took this “1st year celebration game” as the core business of the team.

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#30

The game is still ongoing (and given how it’s slowed down it may never end), but is decidedly less fun for various reasons.

While not the core business of the team, the longer this drags out the more it reflects badly on the integrity/competence of the whole project. There seems to be no winning strategy to salvage things here, so…

Proposal: kill the game asap, hand out the remaining prizes based on whatever set of rules (doesn’t even matter at this point), and try to do better with the rest of the project to remove the stink of this as quickly as possible.

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#31

No need to talk to me, talk to the team. Hit the blue reply button at the very bottom, instead of the grey arrowed one below a message.

It always surprises me how people who just walked in seem to know it all.
The team and the core community will carry this project forward, don’t worry about that. The ones who can’t see beyond a gadget game are not important.

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#32

No one really is upset about Quest except for a few people that tried to game it. It was a fun little experiment until the airdrop greed mentality people jumped on like screaming babies. I remember reading someone complaining the wheel slice was not proportional to the odds. Very content to hold my BTC lotto chances for as long as it takes.

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#33

Any chance of revising the total number of lotto tickets that start the BTC lottery draw? It’s been 4 months since the quest started and we are only at 3.4k out of 21k. The number has barely moved in the last few weeks and it feels like players have lost interest.

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#34

Seems the team lost interest in upkeeping the game. Would be nice for a decision to be made to squash the game or do something… it’s quite embarrassing in the abandoned state it is in right now …

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#35

We’re still maintaining it for now, because we have plans to do a full second launch in a month or so, once we’ve built the new website and documentation to prepare for new users.

All Lotto you’ve won will still be valid, it’s just a little longer of a wait until the drawing.

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#36

This feels very concrete and accountable

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#37

Could you lower the spin fee? Prv has nearly doubled in price since launch …maintenance imo is keeping up with economic conditions that govern the game… and to be blunt the spin fee was added to “battle a bot net” which I think isn’t a problem anymore so perhaps making the spin fee extremely cheap, maybe even free, would bring interest back to the game.

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#38

That’s an interesting thought, I’ll tag @elena here and she should be able to answer that.

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#39

Hey Matt, I understand your concern, but I think “battle a bot net” will become a problem again if we make spins free or extremely cheap. Especially now, when the BTC price is $55K, and the price for all other crypto is also increasing.

However, we will try to make spins more affordable. I will keep you updated here: Privacy Quest update: More ways to get QUEST

Thank you for waiting! :blush:

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#40

Could you disclose evidence that shows a botnet actually attacked the contest ? I’m sort of having a hard time believing that narrative as incognito has very little to no attention besides the tight knit community we have here.

Also it is common practice to adjust fees for things as prices move up, just like withdrawal fees on exchanges for smaller cap coins… when the coin grows larger in value the exchange reduces the fee taken in that native currency, which is a practice that imo should be implemented if you want users to use the contest again…because no one is right now.

@elena

#41

So you are actually suggesting they developed a game, while the developers had more important things to do as well, and once it started, without any incentive from outside decided to spend even more time on the game to prevent non-existing abuse, and for that same reason increased the fees, coz… coz what? There was an opportunity to earn, they overlooked before?

I really wish people would move on and not waste team time over this. Use it if you like/trust it, skip it if you don’t.

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#42

@Matt6412 @elena @aaron While I didn’t doubt the motivation for the spin fee, it’s getting unclear what the intention was in making the game and there’s been a real lack of clear communication throughout and seemingly no exit strategy.

Some, particularly @Jamie , have stated the contest was for insiders to have fun. They have even derided new people for daring to question the project and team. Unfortunately, the game has also been positioned as a way to broaden the reach and adoption of the project. If the latter is true, then it’s obviously failed.

A fake botnet attack seems pretty unlikely to me. A slightly more likely, but still doubtful, situation is that the prizes were not set aside before the start of the game and now are unaffordable. My guess would be that the game was badly planned but the expectation was that it would only last a few months, (because it would attract new people to the project and run its course quickly). In any case, it’s still eroding trust in the team and project to have it drag out so long with no end in sight.

As an aside, @Jamie, you’ve repeatedly told people to ‘move on’ and stop wasting the team’s time… I’ve got to ask

What exactly do you mean by this?

What are you hoping to accomplish with these statements and why do you continue to respond on these threads with a dismissive and rude tone?

Why don’t you move on and let the team respond to these concerns?

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#43

I am more interested in Core development than game development. Adding privacy mode to crypto transactions is core development, the game was just for fun.

Having the team waste time on explaining themselves over a game, does nothing for core development.

I have also suggested to just remove the game from the app, activate that BTC wheel and get it over with.

Pretty sure the loudest people will vanish after the 1 BTC has been distributed. They are not here for the project.

I will repeat this as often as I like. We live in a free world, at least I do.

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#44

Jamie is like a broken record, except worse, because she actively takes any available opportunity to repeat the same narcissistic tirade about how things were better when she wasn’t inconvenienced by reading questions from new people. The same tired narrative every time. All over this forum I see Jamie making snarky, presumptuous, and passive aggressive comments while policing the forum to fit her agenda.

  • “Ignore the problem and focus on more important things”
  • “It was fun until all the new people came in”
  • “Those people don’t love the project like I love project”

It amazes me that someone could make such unproductive and antisocial statements AND slander other users as “greedy” / “know-it-all” / “wasting team time” AND receive supportive :+1: for this behavior from community leaders.

I cannot express in words how much I appreciate the people who have shared real concerns AND constructive ideas for addressing this lootbox problem.